Stokerkontrol og V10 styring

[Martin Farsø]

Står lige for at skulle udskifte min v6.78 styring med en V10, men hvad gør jeg lige sådan rent tilslutningmæssigt, har jo en MiniPC siddende på serielt kabel til min nuværende styring.
Kan Stokerkontrol v3.25 godt finde min nye V10 via netværket eller hvordan fungerer dette, ville jo gerne beholde mit tilpassede design i Stokerkontrol som bliver uploadet til en webserver.

[BoinkUser]

Står lige for at skulle udskifte min v6.78 styring med en V10, men hvad gør jeg lige sådan rent tilslutningmæssigt, har jo en MiniPC siddende på serielt kabel til min nuværende styring.
Kan Stokerkontrol v3.25 godt finde min nye V10 via netværket eller hvordan fungerer dette, ville jo gerne beholde mit tilpassede design i Stokerkontrol som bliver uploadet til en webserver.

Hej Martin

v10 kan ikke kommunikere med StokerKontrol, her skal du bruge www.stokercloud.dk istedet.

Mvh. Jens

[Martin Farsø]

Det er da godt nok noget øv, hvad gør man så for at tilpasse sin webside med baggrund m.m. (som i StokerKontrol), kan det tilpasses i V10 styringen?
Tænkte at det måske var derfor der er en SD slot

[BoinkUser]

Det er da godt nok noget øv, hvad gør man så for at tilpasse sin webside med baggrund m.m. (som i StokerKontrol), kan det tilpasses i V10 styringen?
Tænkte at det måske var derfor der er en SD slot

Hej Martin

Du kan ikke tilpasse baggrunden i StokerCloud for øjeblikket. Det er selvfølgelig noget der bliver muligt, efterhånden som vi udbygger systemet. Mulighederne er næsten uendelige nu hvor vi har fået styringerne direkte online.

SD-kortet er primært tiltænkt opdateringer.

Mvh. Jens

[Martin Farsø]

Har fået tilsluttet min V10 styring i dag, men jeg kan ikke ændre på brugernavn og password til StokerCloud i styringen??
Den står fast på Burgernavn: 475 og en talkode, hvordan ændres dette til mit eksisterende?

[motoz]

When browsing through the V10 manual I noticed that there is indeed a BUS section on the terminal block, with connections marked RX, TX, GND. Is this interface not supported by the V10 firmware? I have noticed that the interface documentation at the NBE.dk site ends with version 6.50, does this mean that the only way to communicate with a V10 burner is to go through stokercloud?

[MHES]

Hi,

Is this interface not supported by the V10 firmware?
No

I have noticed that the interface documentation at the NBE.dk site ends with version 6.50, does this mean that the only way to communicate with a V10 burner is to go through stokercloud?

Yes

Best regards
Michael

When browsing through the V10 manual I noticed that there is indeed a BUS section on the terminal block, with connections marked RX, TX, GND. Is this interface not supported by the V10 firmware? I have noticed that the interface documentation at the NBE.dk site ends with version 6.50, does this mean that the only way to communicate with a V10 burner is to go through stokercloud?

[motoz]

I'm sorry to hear that, seems a bit backwards to require a working internet connection (and a working stokercloud) to be able to connect to the control box. Maybe it can be added in the future? Or even better would be a way to connect through ethernet. (Assuming that the connection to stokercloud is encrypted and not just undocumented)

What about version 7? I have not found any documentation what that one is all about, but it seems to be using the same circuit board.

[motoz]

And here  http://www.nbe-shop.dk/product/bs1016-minitank-150kg-med-10kw-braender-version-10-styring-488/
is also mentioned: "Opkobling til PC ( LAN,, V10 ). ( interface )", which is obviously incorrect.

Any chance V10 will allow connecting to anything other than stokercloud in the future? Not that it is anything wrong with stokercloud of course, only that it requires an internet connection. Maybe version 6 won't ever be phased out, for the unconnected use-case? Or is this the V7 that is mentioned here and there without ever explaining what it is?

[MHES]

No, it is not incorrect 

You can connect the v10 controlbox to a PC via LAN, it just needs your LAN to be connected to the internet as well.
I think the majority of local networks in private households are mainly used for internet connection, anyway in Denmark where the brochure is used 

You might think it is useless, but no one forces you to buy the v10 controlbox 

Best regards
Michael

And here  http://www.nbe-shop.dk/product/bs1016-minitank-150kg-med-10kw-braender-version-10-styring-488/
is also mentioned: "Opkobling til PC ( LAN,, V10 ). ( interface )", which is obviously incorrect.

Any chance V10 will allow connecting to anything other than stokercloud in the future? Not that it is anything wrong with stokercloud of course, only that it requires an internet connection. Maybe version 6 won't ever be phased out, for the unconnected use-case? Or is this the V7 that is mentioned here and there without ever explaining what it is?

[motoz]

Thanks for answering.

Of course that's close to hair splitting but LAN means local area network, and since it can't be used without a wan connection it's definitely misleading. It would be better to replace 'LAN' with 'internet connection'.

No I do not think it is useless, it is obviously a great value add for the majority of customers. I'm just having a hard time understanding the thinking behind lowering the value for a different type of customer by removing a very useful feature. Really, I asked because I was hoping for an answer along the lines of, "yes it's possible, it's just not documented (yet)". Or at least "No the V10 won't support local communication but V7 will". Not because I myself would be replacing the control box, but because I really thought this is the best burner on the market, and now it looks like it will be quite a bit worse for customers like me in the future.   

/regards AN

[BoinkUser]

Thanks for answering.

Of course that's close to hair splitting but LAN means local area network, and since it can't be used without a wan connection it's definitely misleading. It would be better to replace 'LAN' with 'internet connection'.

No I do not think it is useless, it is obviously a great value add for the majority of customers. I'm just having a hard time understanding the thinking behind lowering the value for a different type of customer by removing a very useful feature. Really, I asked because I was hoping for an answer along the lines of, "yes it's possible, it's just not documented (yet)". Or at least "No the V10 won't support local communication but V7 will". Not because I myself would be replacing the control box, but because I really thought this is the best burner on the market, and now it looks like it will be quite a bit worse for customers like me in the future.   

Hi Motoz

The v10 controller is not supporting local communication, and there is no current plan to do so. (as always new decissions can be made, so do not read it as, "that will never happen", its just not planned)

Regarding v7, i cannot tell you know, plans are not final.

Regards Jens