Burner grate gets saturated

[TonniT]

Frank

det giver ingen mening at jeg f.eks kan indstille min styring til 24kw hvis jeg ikke kan bruge det...
Hvorfor så have det styrringen mon???

[didier]

Hello Tony,
No nothing for insulation, the minimum we use is 12cm but i would like to put 18cm, I know 30cm would be better but we do not have these extreme colds here like in Denmark, this winter was really exeptional for Belgium, we had SNOW !!!!this was Years agoo 

[TonniT]

does any one knows comparing my old gasboiler that was 24kw and i consumed 12000m³ gas pro year how much Kgr of pellets i would need to have the same with my 24kw pelletsburner?

If you calculate after this link: http://www.biovarme.dk/index.php?id=8
You will need about 27 ton of pellets.

[TonniT]

we usually do not have much snow and frost.
I would still advise you to get more insulation than 180mm.

as soon as possible, it saves money from day one. plus it keeps the house from being to hot in the summer. more chilled inside than outside.
Spring is a great time for insulation, its not to cold at the roof and its not to hot either.

[didier]

Yess I have a draft stabilizer and yes all the tubing is insulated completely to the house.

Today I emptied the ashtray below and I found out it was nice light grey ashes maybe going to the white side....
Maybe this points out to "to much air"

I changed over now to the settings for the metal blower 24kw because this comes more close to the settings I got from Yann
I will test another day with these settings.

Guess What happened, yesterday evening i saw grey smoke again out the chimney, pointing to me it was time again to check the burner grate, I opened the ashtray and Yes, there they are the Black pellets.....
I Looked at the burner grate and Yess it was again saturated with black halfburned pellets, I had to swipe it off again.

So I changed over to the settings for the Silver aluminium blower, 35 for High.
Wil try again with these settings another day.

[didier]

Tony, 27 tons of pellets?? that means more then 2 ton a month?
In the bad months that just past I had to use 2 ton each month it was 4bags a day or 60kg. so that was my maximum use, I guess it can only become better in summertime, in summertime I used around 2 bags a day maximum, sometimes only 1bag.

Another question, the installation has been done in April 2009 never had problems untill end of septembern then the shit started to happen
I have tried several settings since september till today and never got the burner up and running for more then 2 days without cleaning.
QUESTION:
Since i have to use this high settings for the blower, it points out to me I always have to raise more air into the burner, maybe there is a possibility that the chimney pipes are to dirty from burning incorrectly during all those months.
It seems to me I have no chinmey draft anymore or maybe not enough anymore, could this happen?
Did anyone have these symptoms before that he neede to raise the blower speed because the chimney was to dirty?
As the burner now runs around 10months maybe it is normal to clean the chimney, I have to say it was a newly installed inox chimney pipe, not an old used one.

Any toughts anyine?

[xkfc]

In Denmark it is compulsory to get swept the chimney, mine get sweept every 3 month.

MVH. Kenneth

[Frank_rasmussen]

Frank

det giver ingen mening at jeg f.eks kan indstille min styring til 24kw hvis jeg ikke kan bruge det...
Hvorfor så have det styrringen mon???

Jamen. du kan da godt bruge det.

Hvis man køber et 16 kW-anlæg, så kan kedlen, brænderen, styringen, den eksterne snegl...det hele...klare 24 kW. For det er altsammen det samme, som hvis man havde købt et 24 kW-anlæg.

Det eneste man skal gøre at sætte effekten til 24 kW i styringen (og selvfølgelig autoberegne og finindstille som sædvanlig). Desuden kan man vel på f.eks. en Opop 418-kedel få brug for musetrapper, hvis man kommer over 18 kW....

[TonniT]

Jamen. du kan da godt bruge det.

Hvis man køber et 16 kW-anlæg, så kan kedlen, brænderen, styringen, den eksterne snegl...det hele...klare 24 kW. For det er altsammen det samme, som hvis man havde købt et 24 kW-anlæg.

Og hvad var så idé'en med den anden og 800.- dyre chip der var forskellen???

[Paw]

Frank

det giver ingen mening at jeg f.eks kan indstille min styring til 24kw hvis jeg ikke kan bruge det...
Hvorfor så have det styrringen mon???

Undskyld, Frank, at jeg lige bryder ind. Hej Tonni, det er da en stor fordel, hvis du vil udvide dit stuehus eller lave gulvvarme i garagen, hvad man nu ellers kan finde på, så tuner du bare lidt. Det er da nemmmere end at skulle skifte til et større anlæg.

[TonniT]

Hej Paw
Vi er helt enige...
Har du læst hele tråden igennem???
Hvad jeg mente var at det ikke gav nogen mening at funktionen lå i styrringen og styringen alligevel ikke kunne køre som 24kw. Og at så vidt jeg har forstået ud af det frank siger så mener frank ikke at didier kan drosle sin scotte til 16kw.
som han begrunede ud fra det jeg forstod med at der skulle 1 chip til 16kw og 1 chip til 24kw.

[Paw]

Der ER en chip både til 16 og 24 kw. Nok for folk der ikke vil pille selv, nu kender jeg ikke scotten, men woodyen kan man drosle ned fra 24 til 16 kw og omvendt. Det burde man også kunne med en scotte eller låse den til max 16 kw.

[Frank_rasmussen]

Og at så vidt jeg har forstået ud af det frank siger så mener frank ikke at didier kan drosle sin scotte til 16kw.

Det mener, jeg nu ikke at have skrevet nogensteder...og jeg mener det heller ikke

in my opion it will be easier and quicker to change the parameters in the 24 kW-setup than to exchange the chips in the controler..

[TonniT]

Ret skal være ret Frank og den havde jeg måske fanget hvis jeg LÆST tråden igennem inden jeg ytrede mig